Land next to the Creche – Update
August 27, 2008
2nd October 2008
A new file number is availabe for Mr Hanlons application the file reference number is 089094 and the planning application is for
Mixed use neighbourhood centre development consisting of a four storey building with cafe with external seating area, office/medical floorspace with option for internal subdivision of up to 4 no. units, 22 no. apartments, retail floorspace with option for internal subdivison of up to 4 no. units and all associated development works including car parking, landscaping and amenity areas, bicycle storage and service/refuse storage facilities
17th September 2008
A file application number still isn’t showing on www.corkcoco.ie planning database. Objections can’t be lodged until there is an application number. Once an application number has been posted on the Cork County Council website I will upload it immediately and flyers will be delivered to each property in Pembroke Wood outlining what planning has been sought and who to contact if an objection wants to be entered.
27th August 2008
The planning application for the land next to the creche has been returned to Mr Paul Hanlon as it was lodged incomplete. He will now have to submit a whole new application and therefore and new application number will be available in due course. Once the new planning number is available I will add to this website.
Also Mr Hanlon will have to put up brand new signs on the site.
The residents committee met this and they will be submitting a formal objection but all individual objections should be submitted also.
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Tom O. | August 27, 2008 at 1:33 pm
“with cafe with external seating area” is that to sweeten the residents. Interest. I presume this is only if somebody can make a go of a cafe in a residential park, if not does it lies unused. Didn’t they have to change the use on the planning application for the upstairs in the creche from “office/medical floorspace” because it wasn’t been taken up as office/medical floorspace. Now they plan to build more. ??? we can see plenty of unused “office/medical floorspace” in other parks in Passage. Just look down the road.
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Joan. | August 27, 2008 at 3:29 pm
it will be the best €25 i spend. Greedy developers, still trying to squeeze every last euro out of the park. this is ideal for a green area, concerning the main green area is unusable when it been raining for any amount of time as its a bog for days after and you need a mountaineering degree to access it.
I doubt we will be able to stop it though. they build what they want.
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Adrian | August 27, 2008 at 6:53 pm
“with cafe with external seating area, is that to sweeten the residents” Absolutely right there Tom. And no wonder the seating is external, at a whopping 17.5 Sqm theres no room for seats inside. Hope they’ll include a few umbrellas.
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rachel lynn | August 28, 2008 at 10:37 am
will the Residents Association be submitting an objection
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Jo-anne O Keeffe | August 28, 2008 at 10:56 am
Hi rachel
The residents association will be sending in an objection but it won’t be enough to stop the planning. Every individual who isn’t in agreement with the planning application should lodge an objection, the more objections the less chance of planning being granted.
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Tom O. | August 28, 2008 at 1:38 pm
i see the new planning application boundary conveniently takes in the already existing entrance to the creche and the car park.
I presume that will cover the “all associated development works including car parking, landscaping and amenity areas, bicycle storage and service/refuse storage facilities”
Clever thinking from the developer.
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Tom O. | August 28, 2008 at 1:42 pm
Here is a link to the cork county council planning page.
http://213.94.218.86/PlanningEnquiryLiteV3/Default.aspx?FullFileNumber=18a-088530&FromMap=True
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john | August 29, 2008 at 5:36 pm
hi i would not like to see this get planning as i think it would be hard for them to let the units especilly when the medical unit!! down the road is lying empty.also i believe the new supermarket which is set to open in the next few weeks has plans to include a cafe.also i thought a playground was supposed to go in there.on what grounds do i have to object,it would be money well spent?
john
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Paul | August 30, 2008 at 10:43 pm
Would it be a good idea if the residants association got some professional advice on what we should say in our objection letters. If we are all object on the same grounds and those grounds are relevant enough to stop the development wouldn’t that be much better than all different objections with possibly not so relevant grounds. Money in the residents associations kitty well spent id say.
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john | September 2, 2008 at 3:39 pm
i agree with paul if there was a meeting held and everyone informed i think a good turnout could be expected!!
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MARY | September 2, 2008 at 5:27 pm
Yes, Paul sudgestion make quit a lot of sense.Its pointless and a huge wast of money if we all send in unrelieved and unrelated objections. This needs to be organised properly. As a resident, can i ask the residents association to to take Paul’s suggestion in hand and make some funds available for a professional to come in and advise us on our best route of action. If we all stand as one under the banner of the residents association we can beat this.
BUT WE WILL NEED THE BACK UP AND SUPPORT OF THE RESADIANTS ACCISOATION TO HELP US UNITE THE PARK.
We need help with this. Can we count on the support of the association Joe-Anne.
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Tom O. | September 3, 2008 at 9:32 am
I agree, Can the residents acc. call a meeting about this development. Please.
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ger | September 4, 2008 at 8:46 pm
i have contacted the planning office and the planning notice on display dated 21 August has been deemed invalid by the county council. they informed me that any ojections/observations to this notice will be returned to send and not entertained. Paul Hanlon will have to submit a new application. this is expected tomorrow or next week. i am against this proposed development.
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Tom O. | September 5, 2008 at 9:39 am
Well done Ger, I was heading up today to have a look myself. So we don’t need to object to this application. Well gives us a little more time to organise ourselves.
Well done again Ger, Pity we dont have more people like you on the Residents Association.
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ger | September 10, 2008 at 1:16 pm
update: no revised application received yet at the planning office. paul hanlon’s application was deemed incomplete due to lack of drawings. i’ll contact the planning office again next week.
personally i think he’d be crazy to build in the current economy! and the fact that the vacant building in Ardmore is empty for several years and they can’t find a tenant, so why would he want to build another medical office. and with barry collins opening in passage the requirement for shop/cafe is surplus to the area!
note: objections/observations can be made up to 35 days with 20euro fee to: Secretary Cork County Council Planning Department, County Hall, Cork.
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ger | September 10, 2008 at 1:17 pm
p.s. thanks for the kind comment Tom O!
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EJP | September 24, 2008 at 8:39 pm
Thought this site would be of interest to some but not sure where to post it! Its from the Finanacial Regulator
http://www.consumerproperty.ie
http://www.consumerproperty.ie/your-issues/property-management-companies.html
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Audrey | October 2, 2008 at 5:37 pm
What do we do now? Do we have a plan of what we’re going to say in our objections? It seems like an awful lot of things going to be going on in such a small space. Besides the actual development there hardly seems room for a car park and an outside cafe! This was supposed to be a playground in the original plans of the estate, was it not?
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Tom O | October 3, 2008 at 12:02 pm
the new planning application boundary takes in the existing car park.
so even though he has said in this written application “all associated development works including car parking, landscaping and amenity areas, bicycle storage and service/refuse storage facilities”
these are already in place inside his new planning boundary, so no he is not obliged to build new car parking, landscaping and amenity areas, bicycle storage and service/refuse storage facilities.
why waist good building land on public amenities, no money in that, but it looks great on the planning application.
clever developer.
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Audrey | October 7, 2008 at 9:29 pm
Tom, can he just use the existing “amenities” for his development. Surely there isn’t enough parking in the car park in front of the existing apartments for 22 more apartments, a cafe and other commercial units.
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laura | October 15, 2008 at 8:14 pm
personally, i feel that this development will be good for the area and could increase the value of our homes in the coming future, there is a serious lack of amenties in the area as it is so why try and stop the prospect of future services in our own town??
our town and for many of us our home town!. has been without for long enough so i dont understand why you people do not want to see our town grow and develop like every other neighbouring town in the city,such as douglas, carrigaline, kinsale, etc..
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john. | October 21, 2008 at 11:47 am
Laura.
Look around you. commercial unite empty all over passage.
do you even live in the park? or passage for that matter?
because if you did you might see the biggest eurospar in Ireland 200 yards down from your house with empty commercial units attached and even more empty units in the park down from us.
yes lets put up more units to leave vacant.
i think a bit of green space for our kids to play in would add a lot more value that derelict commercial units.
don’t you?
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laura | October 21, 2008 at 10:04 pm
YES JOHN I DO LIVE IN THE PARK AND HAVE LIVED IN PASSAGE ALL MY LIFE, IF YOU HAVE READ THE ECHO THIS WEEK YOU WOULD HAVE SEEN THAT HOWARD HOLDINGS HAVE GOT PLANNING PERMISSION TO DEVELOP IN THE TOWN CENTRE THIS IS GOING TO BRING ALOT OF BUSINESS TO PASSAGE SO I THINK IT IS SAFE TO SAY THAT THE DERELICT COMMERCIAL UNITS AS YOU SAID WONT BE SO DERELICT FOR MUCH LONGER!! And to add to that the government want to see an increase in the purchasing of commercial units hence the 3% decrease in the stamp duty for commercial units which is going to entice investors also into the area. As for a green area for our kids, theres plenty in the park and the town park also, the land next to doodlebugs was never zoned to be a green area in the first place!! i think you should do your research on the original site maps before you start going on about green space for our kids, if you have lived in passage all your life as i have you should know that there is bad lack of amenties in the area and i think it its well overdue that some money be spent on the infrastrucure of the area to match up with all the new development in the area
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john. | October 22, 2008 at 2:48 pm
Good point, So we have the vacant units in Eurospar, the vacant units in the park next door, vacant units in the town center, and the commercial units that Howard holdings will develop on the waterfront.
Lets keep the commercial units to the town center and commercial areas of passage, not the residential park.
as for green space
I would like to changeling anybody to walk across the large playing area the the developer has kindly left for our kids in the Crescent
Cant be done, no drainage. infant when passing have a look at the bog grass that has started to grow.
every body is entitled to an opinion. lets express that opinion by objecting or not.
i know what i will be doing.
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laura | October 23, 2008 at 12:35 am
i dont think you will ever get the point that i am making, take a look at mount oval, plenty of amenties in that park and it is one of the most expensive residential parks in the city. Why shouldnt we have the same amenties as most areas in the city. As for your comment regarding the commercial units, my point was that the howard holdings development will bring alot of new interest into the town hence the vacant units in ardmore and spar wont be so vacant anymore.
As for the green area for our kids, why not get onto manor park or the council im not too sure who has taken this over but if you and i know alot of my neighbours are not happy why not express an opinion to them about it , instead of getting so uptight about a development that will be good for the area but i suppose as you said everyone is entitled to an opinion!!!
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Tom O | October 23, 2008 at 6:35 am
Sorry for butting in on this but.
Mount oval village had to be created from a green field.Nothing there before. One shop, one pub. one creche one video store. etc.
Passage village is already there. With plenty of pubs, plenty of shops. and plenty of creches etc.
In fact, shops are closing in passage and i think the next to go will be the Supermarket in the village.
I agree keep the shops and cafes to the town center (like mount oval all in one area) and keep the parks and estates for residents and kids to play.
that’s my two pence worth.
Tom O out.
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john | October 23, 2008 at 4:59 pm
Well I believe that open green areas will add much more value social and economically to our park than industrial units.
But that is only my opinion.
That’s it also it from me on this topic.
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Caroline | October 26, 2008 at 8:40 pm
I agree with Tom about Mount Oval,it had to be created, Passage was already there.Not alone us, but no one at the moment needs more retail units.Harbour Heights has all but come to a stand still as with all building works. Yes I agree that Passage Village need a face lift but the extent of what Howard Holdings wants to do I think is a bit ambitious.If the green areas in this estate were landscaped properly especially the green in front of Doodlebugs it would improve our estate hugely.Residents are at the moment a little bit upset with what might be going to happen,yes everyone would like to see the estate improved,if the truth be told,but lets not all be against each other.
My tuppence worth!!!
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Brendan | October 27, 2008 at 8:22 pm
Was anybody else disgusted by the propaganda put through our doors last night?
It was extremely badly written, trying to hammer home the fact that this development will ruin pembroke woods. Just give me the facts and I will decide for myself, thanks.
Speaking of facts it said that its 27m high, thats just under half the size of the Elysian. Gets your facts right before you try to object. If what the residents committee say is true that means the apartments that are currently there are 24.5m high, they are barley 10m, and that each new floor in the new development will be just under 7m. Most industrial buildings don’t have that distance between floors.
There is a sentence in the letter that says “There are no external doors for the retail units…” that doesnt even make any sense?? “… suggesting that they could be converted for another purpose”. How can doors suggest this? Even if they were to change purpose they can only change to another retail unit unless another planning application is submitted regarding a material change of use of the unit.
As for what John says above I would refuse to pay any residents fees if they were used to fund professional advice on how to object to this property. This is just my opinion on it.
Another thing about this letter is the fact that nobody had the balls to put their name to it. What good is delivering a letter like this if you cant respond to it? I am just presuming that it has come from somebody on the residents association.
Id do take on board the safety issue regarding the children entering the crèche but still believe that this will not be nearly large enough an issue for a rejected application.
Again with the over exaggerations in the letter – “Our children are the ones that will suffer most with the loss of a flat playing area…” Since i have been living here, the amount of children playing on this green are quite low compared to the others. Even so, according to the map attached to the letter, the development will only take up about half of the green area, the rest being left untouched. “…..other greens in the area are unusable” how is this green any different to the others? Is this the developers problem? “Also an all weather playing area which was a condition of the original planning was never built” Again how is this a problem with the new application. I think the committee have answered this themselves by saying “condition of ORIGINAL planning”.
When it was first mentioned about the loss of light to the apartments, i thought that this would be a major factor in the objection, but thinking about it more, the sunlight does not even hit the front of the apartments until mid afternoon. Even during the summer the majority of apartments will have direct sunlight until about 6 O’clock In the evening. However after this there may be grounds for objections, as several of the lower apartments may have a shadow cast upon them.
Why is it such a problem that one of the retail units could be used as an off licence. I just don’t understand that point.
Just to clear it up i have no involvement with this development, and I do live in pembroke woods. I just don’t appreciate having views rammed down my throat. It is good to be kept up to date with the local happenings but maybe in a more neutral letter in future. And a contact name would be handy.
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john | October 28, 2008 at 1:50 pm
what letter,im living in pembroke woods and i didnt get any letter dose anyone have a copy of it?
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Anne | October 29, 2008 at 9:06 am
I couldn’t disagree with brendan more. I though the letter was very well presented and made some very clear valid points. I personnally am delighted that someone went to the trouble of informing us of what is going on. I hadn’t realised the scale of this at all.
The green area that will be left will have too much traffic around it to be of any use to kids. My husband has since got the plans of the new building. The letter is correct when it says the new building is 2.5m higher than the existing apartments. There was certainly a mistake with the height of the building on the letter. It’s just short of 13m high. The 27m and 24.5m on the plans are heights above sea level. So the end result is the same. If I was living in the existing apartments I wouldn’t want to be looking at a wall when I look out my front window.
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Emma | November 11, 2008 at 11:38 pm
With all due respect to my fellow Pembroke Woods neighbours’ comments on this topic…and while I might just be protecting my own patch, I feel that having a 4 storey building erected within a stones throw of my front door is a step too far, especially when what was originally allowed on planning was for 2 much smaller commercial units.
While I am not objecting to some kind of development, I don’t see how this particular development benefits our estate.
For those who feel that opinions are being ‘rammed’ down their throats, why don’t you voice your opinions and participate in resident’s meetings, which have always been well advertised??
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Caroline | January 9, 2009 at 12:05 pm
Happy new year to all,
Has the residents association recommenced their monthly meeting?
If so, is there anyone updating the website? I have two very small children and my husband works late so it is hard for me to attend the meetings and this way I can keep up to date with the agenda.
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Caroline | March 3, 2009 at 1:10 pm
This being the first Tuesday of the month, is there a resident association meeting if so where and at what time?, please
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Emma | March 14, 2009 at 2:37 pm
Can anyone explain why there is “Bob the Builders” diggerpark across the road from my house…The eyesore is getting worse by the day!!
Also just to note it is a very dangerous “playground” for curious teenagers…a few I have spotted a couple of weeks back having a great time trashing the place…Does insurance cover this if one of them gets seriously injured I wonder??
Not to mind the mound of rubble literally dumped on the other side of the “green” area now cordoned off…………
When is it going to end????????????????
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Jon | March 25, 2009 at 10:50 am
Does anyone know what all the work going on at the minute in the park is all about?
Seems to be emanating from the “Bob the Builders” diggerpark (as Emma so perfectly put it.) I’ve seen builders running around for a few days now.
Jon
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Joanne | March 26, 2009 at 6:10 pm
The builders you saw around the park were from Manor Park Homes the actual developers of the estate. I asked them what they were doing as two of them stood in my driveway with the man holes opened and the response I got was just plastering around, i asked around what and got no response. i was at home ill so didn’t feel like a confrontation therefore didn’t continue the conversation.
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Darran | April 21, 2009 at 10:49 am
Just to let people know – I checked the planning site this morning and noticed that the application has been updated to say that the extra information that had been requested by the planning department has been provided by the developer as of the 14th of April and that a decision is due by the 11th of May. I’m going to try and check out tomorrow what the information was.
I asked the guys the week before last who were digging up the paths what they were up to as they just dug up the entrance to my driveway without even knocking on the door to let us know (our cars were still in the driveway). Their response was that the council was replacing the water pots, which made some sense as the path was cracked right next to it.
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donnacha | April 21, 2009 at 12:40 pm
what has happened to the landscaping plan for our estste to be turned into a mount oval type estste. has any landscaping work being done?
can we get manor park to cut the grass even at this stage. our estate is in a very poor condtion considering its just a few years old. how manor park can get away with leaving the big green area as it is needs to be addressed as amtter of urgency. i duggest we try and get the bond from the council and finish the estate ourselves (dream on)
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Caroline | April 22, 2009 at 12:02 pm
The estate again is beginning to look shabby,why does it take near uproar before anything is done. Why doesn`t the residents commitee collect a few bob from each resident to get an independant someone to cut the grass.
Could residents then take care of outside their own properties??? Giving the place a sweep and taking up the weeds goes a long way!!
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Adele | April 22, 2009 at 3:27 pm
Caroline, I rang Supple yesterday wondering if they were still responsible for cutting the grass or had that responsibility been turned over to Manor Park and needless to say I am still waiting for a return phone call. I am totally embarrassed at the state of the park – Harbour Heights must be on their third grass cut at this stage. I can’t believe it is nearly May and the grass has still not been cut this year!! Does anyone know when the grass will be cut and what the schedule is for the rest of the year?
It would be great if we could organise a monthly litter pick as the park gets very untidy very quickly. The park looked great after the last pick – it would be great if more residents would get involved.
On a separate note is the resident’s association still in operation? I would like to become involved as I am sick of grumbling to myself about the state ot the park and would like to help improve the park. I still can’t believe there is no Pembroke Woods sign at the entrance to the park after nearly years!! I would be grateful if someone for the Residents’ Association could contact me.
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Eileen | April 23, 2009 at 11:04 am
Does anyone know why we are actually paying management fees for the apartments? Grass cutting is supposed to be included in the fees!!!!! Its not like the fees are cheap or anything!
I will be getting a loan of a lawnmower soon and do it myself, its just so embarassing, the estate looks like a run down council estate. Anyone trying to sell property here hasn’t a hope, i mean who in there right mind would buy here when they could purchase in harbour heights!
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Caroline | April 23, 2009 at 11:29 am
Adele,
I too am embarassed by the estate I drove into Harbour Heights and it was so beautiful.
Can you maybe let me know the phone number of Supple or the departments that you have got onto and I`ll call too,if enough people ring the might get the message.
Has the residents association gone off to more manacured green pastures,if not, why is`t the web page being updated?
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Adele | April 23, 2009 at 7:21 pm
Caroline,
I rang the main number for Supple 021-4343340 and spoke to the receptionist (twice – rang again today). She said she had passed my number onto a director and he would call me back – the grass will be ten feet tall before that happens!! It would be great if you called – the more that do, then hopefully something will be done about it. You might let me know how you get on.
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Eileen | April 23, 2009 at 8:27 pm
Adele,Caroline,
Its the same every year. We were blue in the face from ringing last yr and the management company are totally useless. It really is frustrating. I spent a morning about a month ago going around all the apts picking up the rubbish, i filled 2 full bags, now it looks like it has never been done!
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Caroline | April 26, 2009 at 8:17 pm
The latest that I have is, I sent an e mail to Supple regarding the grass cutting in the estate and I also phoned them. No joy from the phone call,what I am going to do now is e mail the local candidates that are running for re election and see what they can do for us. I`ve already mailed Jo Kelleher and Deirdre Forde and I am not finished yet. Those who call to the door will get an earfull also!
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Eileen | April 27, 2009 at 4:46 pm
I just called the number again. Was left on hold for 11 minutes then told i would be called back. Apparently Brian , the Director we need to speak too is just too busy to talk to us!!
Companies like his don’t deserve to be in business and it would serve them right if they were all out of jobs in the near future. It really makes me mad listening to their excuses! Grass cutting isn’t exactly the most difficult or expensive thing in the world!!!!
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Eileen | April 28, 2009 at 9:25 pm
`what a surprise…called again today, still no return call!
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Caroline | April 29, 2009 at 11:21 am
Hello all,
Latest I have,as I said I have been e mailing some local candidates that are running for local elections and Deirdre Forde has got back to me. Grass is to be cut next week,yippie!! There is to be a meeting on 6th May between Marcia D`Alton and a chap called Felim not sure is open to the resident but I`ve e maied her asking her this. Deirdre Forde said the IPH is doing the snag list before the estate can be handed over. Name plate is to installed too. Eileen and Adele do you know if the resident association is still meeting,there must be somethig as there was a litter pick just a few weeks back.
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Caroline | April 29, 2009 at 7:58 pm
Adele,
I e mailed Marcia D`Alton who lives in the estate and is a member of the town council and she has said that the association is all but gone,but for her and Frank and Hazel Thorne. I asked if they still meet and if so could I please attend. What would you think if €50.00 was collected from each household yearly that would cover the grass cutting and controling the weeds,done by an outside contractor?
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Adele | May 1, 2009 at 4:11 pm
Hi Caroline,
First of all, that’s great about the grass being cut next week. It’s like a jungle. Fair play to you for contacting the local candidates – I emailed a couple of them as well but to date have had no response – they won’t be getting my vote!!
I would also like to become involved with the residents’ committee so if you find out if there is to be another meeting please let me know as I would like to attend.
I would have no problem in paying €50 a year for the upkeep of the estate but I can’t see how feasible it would be in getting this money from every house in the estate. The same people would stump up all the time and others would never pay and yet still enjoy the benefits of a lovely tidy estate. Maybe funds could be raised by other means to ensure there is enough in the coffers to pay an outside contractor on an . That could be discussed at the next residents’ meeting………
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Eileen | May 1, 2009 at 5:44 pm
At one of the litter picks last year we were all asked for €20 from the residents commitee. We gave it but not sure what it was used for and I hadn’t heard the committee was gone.
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Caroline | May 3, 2009 at 7:26 pm
I agree about the money not coming from all the houses especially those houses that are rented. Cllr. Deirdre Forde told me that she has attended meetings for residents to set up their associations maybe she would do this for us and advise us on how to overcome the obstacle of the rented houses. All we would need is enough money for a contractor to come and maintain the common green areas yearly, ie.a timetable for grass cutting, keeping the weeds at bay and replacing the trees that need repalcing.
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Audrey | May 5, 2009 at 9:55 am
To be honest I don’t blame the Residents Committee for all but giving up. I went to the last 2 meetings in the Soccer Club, out of the whole estate I think 14 residents turned up. If residents dont get involved we cant expect a committee to do everything for us. Thanks Caroline for all the work you’ve done, hopefully we will have a result this week.
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donnacha | May 11, 2009 at 11:33 am
i agree with all the comments about the park. if manor park wont deal with us is their anyway we can get at their bond that is with the council.
Is it possible to send the directors of maor park solicitors letter or is that wa waste of time too. i wont be surprised to hear the developer go under and then what for the residents. the estate is like a council estate and thats being nice.
the local councillors should be ashamed, some representatives for the area.
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Eileen | May 11, 2009 at 7:32 pm
Well lets give them hell when they call to ours doors over the next few wks!
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Darran | May 12, 2009 at 9:57 am
I just checked the planning web site and conditional permission has been given for the development. Not sure what the conditions are, will check in the county hall tomorrow….
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Adele | May 12, 2009 at 10:18 am
I have been in contact with Seamus McGrath and he is under the impression that the grass has been cut at this stage. I informed him this morning that the back sections were cut but for some reason the main green sections at the front of the estate have still not been cut??????? I have asked him (pleaded really) to speak with his contact again and find out why were only certain sections cut, when will the front sections be cut and if at all possible, if he could get a grass cutting schedule for the remainder of the year. I am so frustrated and upset by the state of the park – sure it’s nearly two feet tall at the entrance – no exaggeration!! I’m embarrassed to say I live in Pembroke Woods – we must be the only estate in County Cork that hasn’t had the grass cut this year – DISGRACEFUL!!!! I am emailing a few more local councillors this morning to see if they will actually do what they promise to do and help their local constituents!!
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Caroline | May 12, 2009 at 1:29 pm
I`ve e mailed Deirdre Forde again regarding the grass cutting,it was her that told me that it would be done last week. Like you Adele I pleaded with her to get onto her contacts again to get the job finished from the main road inwards. I really do pity the residents that are trying to sell their houses.
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Judy | May 12, 2009 at 7:22 pm
Fist of all thanks to all who contacted councillors etc – I agree with Adele – I am embarrased to have any one call to me or even when I drive into the estate myself. I saw the guy cutting the grass (or a portion of it) last Friday and he just dumped the grass over by the big mound by creche!! Unfortunately I am just out of hospital so was unable to confronet him on this. Regarding the area in front of the green I am beginning to wonder if we would be better off with that developed rather than the pile of rubbish and junk that is there at the moment – does anyone know what is going on there or who IPH developments are (The PH wouldn’t have anything to do with Paul Hanlon would it?? ) It has been that way now for about a year!! I am not up to date on our rights etc but would our concillors have any clout in getting that area cleaned up too or is that outside their remit??
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Caroline | May 13, 2009 at 11:15 am
Judy,
The area in front of the creche is private property,IPH is conected to Paul Hanlon. Manor Homes have asked him to do the snag list for the estate,hence the work that is being done on the man holes, and when that is done the estate will be handed over to the council. I had a quick drive around the estate yesterday and the green across from the apts and the green that is in front of my house was never cut. I e mailed Cllr. Forde again asking why and pleaded with her to get onto her contacts to cut this and the entrance to the estate. Anytime someone visits me I am apologising for the mess the estate is in.
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Audrey | May 13, 2009 at 6:17 pm
My understanding, after the last meeting, I attended in October was that the Residents Association were getting back to Manor Park about the work that was left to be carried out in the estate. We agreed at that meeting that we would prefer the whole estate to be landscaped properly like Harbour Heights or Herons Wood instead of a playground. I thought that the estate could not be handed over to the Council until we, the residents, agreed and were happy with it. I did not think that they were just going to do work on manholes and then hand over the estate. There were other conditions also that I can’t remember. Was anyone else at that meeting?
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Caroline | May 13, 2009 at 8:51 pm
Audrey,
I think that all of that is going to be sorted out before the handing over to the council,the manholes are just one of the issues. I think the landscaping is to be done too,I really am not sure what else has to be done or what time scale there is.
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Audrey | May 13, 2009 at 9:18 pm
Hi Caroline
I think there was things like correcting a name plate on one of the roads, putting up a name at the entrance to the estate. I would be worried that the IPH Developments are going to be responsible for the landscaping after seeing their grass cutting skills. Who Manor Park get back to if there is no Residents Association?
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Caroline | May 14, 2009 at 11:30 am
Audrey,
Not sure if IPH will be responsible for the landscaping of the estate,don`t even know what they are responsible for. The grass cutting was a joke,from what I can see there are two small greens one large green and the entrance to the estate forgotten. I don`t know what to do now,any suggestions?
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Eileen | May 19, 2009 at 4:48 pm
Does anybody know anyone who was on the residents commitee before, maybe they would have a better idea of what has been agreed although the minutes on this site are quite comprehensive.
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Rob | May 28, 2009 at 5:39 pm
***** INFO Re: Recent water works in Pembroke Wood *********
As part of the ongoing works around the estate, pipe works were carried out yesterday that effected the mains water supply of the apartments. (At least along the Avenue)
Since the water was switched back on yesterday, it’s been unclean. I called the councils water caretaker on “087 6316309″, he was aware of the works being carried out by PHI. He was helpful and said he would get in contact with PHI and if necessary have them re-flush the system.
If anyone else has issues with their water supply or quality they should give the water caretaker a call on the number above. I believe the more calls or complaints he gets the more care PHI will be forced to take when carrying out their work.
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Stephanie | May 28, 2009 at 7:18 pm
Hi There,
I’m probably a bit out of touch with the plans to hand the estate over to the council but if we have to be happy with the estate before the hand over then why is the boundary wall at the top of the estate not an issue we are looking at?
I live at the top of Pembroke Park Drive and every day there are kids from 2 – 20 hopping over the temporary gate and going up into the scrubland above the estate.. This evening alone 3 car loads of teenage boys just off loaded bags of drink and radio’s etc. all set for an evening of partying. Other days there are kids mitching off school, hanging around.. the area has been set on fire twice and I also believe a young girl was assaulted up there.
This temporary structure is unslightly, dangerous to our kids, and causing anti-social behavior and I believe it should be looked at as a higher priority than setting some trees otherwise our estate will become a no go area..
Please let me know if anyone knows of the plans for this boundary wall
Thanks..
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emmajam | May 29, 2009 at 12:35 am
Hi there,
I am new to the estate and have to admit that after reading all these entries, it casts a fairly negative portrayal of the estate.
I find it a bit strange looking back at the entries over the past few weeks that so many people were giving out over the state of the grass areas on the estate – and yet now that they have been cut (which must be a good thing!) people are still cribbing – but now they are cribbing over the competence of the contractor. Surley this is mad. If people have concerns over certian areas surley they could have phoned this IPH company – i pass their sign every day and it has thier phone number on it, . I personally think that the grass areas around the estate were left get too long and the park looked terrible – however the grass areas are now cut and look well and will hopefully be maintained Manor Homes.
Also, i would assume that the works being carried out by IPH are necessary or Manor Homes surely would not be paying them if they thought they could get away without doing this work.? I do agree that the site in the centre of the estate is an eye sore and quiet embarrassing , however again i assume this will be cleared when the works around the estate are finished. Surley all this work will be beneficial to the estate when it is finished and at least we are now seeing Manor Homes finishing the estate?
As i say i am new to this, but i do hope that some positive feed backs will start to appear on this site which will surely benefit our estate?
Thanks
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Audrey | May 29, 2009 at 9:56 am
Hi emmajam
We have been through all this with the grass cutting for the last few years, every year our estate looks appalling and various people (it used to be the residents committee) spend the summer ringing Supples in vain. It is left to get so long that when it is cut it still looks awful for a while afterwards.
I wouldn’t hold your breath on the “positive feedback” posts, because there wont be positive feedback until positive things start to happen in this estate. Supples couldn’t give a damn about Pembroke Wood, there are many serious problems going in this estate which you may not be aware of and lots of residents are living a miserable life in here because of situations that arose as a result of Supples not fulfilling their obligations.
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Eileen | May 29, 2009 at 8:19 pm
Emma its great to be optimistic but i agree with Audrey, don’t hold your breath on anything getting done. I personally am worn down with making phonecalls and getting nowhere. I travel a lot and could never commit to the residents commitee other than with litter picks. there are a lot of great people in the estate but just not enough to make a difference! that’s my opinion!